The Hebrew word for vain is Reyq = empty, vain

a) empty (of vessels)

b) empty, idle, worthless (ethically)

Sounds like following McCain not Paul. For all the criticisms of Paul it isn’t following the prevailing political winds as McCain does. Maybe you had better apply that verse differently.

Sam, I hope through these discussions we can encourage you to stop following empty men and gain understanding.

By the way, now that I see you refer to scripture I would encourage you to rethink your pro war positions. Check out link in post 33 about Christians love of war.

Thanks for sharing the Proverb with me I appreciate it.

He is coming in 3rd in both states tonight.
In NC, looks like he might be able to beat “no one” by only 3% points or else he would be fourth.

Poverbs 12:11 He who works his land will have abundant food,
but he who chases fantasies lacks judgment.

There is a huge difference between your analogies and pursuing a policy of aggression and you know it.

Fires, car accidents, robberies and murder are going to happen regardless of government policy for the most part.

Wars of aggression are a completely different story we control them the are avoidable. Not only are there the concerns for the soldier there MUST be a concern for our fellow human beings in these places we choose to destroy.

For you cheerleaders to sit back at home and cheer on this destruction on your fellow man without justification is absolutely astounding to me.

The fact that you lump all these different things into war discussion shows either you have lost the ability to reason or your conscience is so hardened that you just don’t see it.

Btw, many people including myself wouldn’t dream of putting our child’s education in the hands of someone else so we do choose to train them ourselves.

Deut: 6:6 These words, which I command you this day, shall be on your heart;

6:7 and you shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, and when you walk by the way, and when you lie down, and when you rise up.

You believe we should be protecting our border?
Then why aren’t you going?

Do you believe we should be protecting our cities?
Then why aren’t you?

Do you believe we should have firefighter - then why haven’t you volunteered to be one?
How about Police - Are you a police officer too?
How about Schools, should we teach our children - then why aren’t you a teacher?

Above, you said we need to come home and protect our boarder -
Why haven’t you joined the border patrol or coast guard?