Comments on: In Case You Thought The Revolution Was Over #2

By: the Lady Logician

the Lady Logician — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:28:46 +0000

“We’re talking about the caucus attendees, and many of THEM were newbies. Those who have made it up through the delegate ranks tend to be more of the oldtimers.”

Again with the generalities. In our CD most of the oldtimers GAVE UP their seats to the convention to newbies! There were more new faces in the seats this year than old.

By: the Lady Logician

the Lady Logician — Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:26:16 +0000

Jerry said it best I think.

Marianne wants to talk about the hostility shown to the Paul supporters….what about the hostility that has been shown BY the Paul supporters to those of us in the party who were (at one time) slightly supportive of them. At our CD Convention I was treated with suspicion and hostility by the “organized” Paul supporters just because I was working the convention. They don’t know me at all, they don’t know whether I am hostile to them or not but they assumed I was and treated me accordingly. Meanwhile I am actually working with the Paul supporters in my BPOU to make sure that they are not only welcome in the BPOU but that they have every opportunity they want to get involved and have their say!

Respect and acceptance works BOTH WAYS Marianne!

By: J. Ewing

J. Ewing — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 19:03:48 +0000

Maybe if I say it short and simple:

Victory without principle is not good. Principle without victory is very bad.

By: clef

clef — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 18:23:39 +0000

I’ve given MY answers many times too, Marianne! It’s my opinion we should welcome the new Paul supporters into this party with open arms IF they support a common goal of electing endorsed Republican candidates at all levels. If their views on the issues vary a little from most of us, that’s cool. None of us agree on everything. If their goal is solely focused on Ron Paul and his agenda, then they don’t belong here.

I will happily welcome these newcomers, as “newbies” can sometimes breathe fresh air into any organization. What I WILL NOT welcome is the dishonest tactics they as a whole have been using to grab power. You can say all day long that they weren’t dishonest, but I know what I know, and I feel sorry for you if you can rationalize away the lies.

By: George Judd Mowry

George Judd Mowry — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 16:56:43 +0000

One more time, then I think that my fingers will fall off! I welcome the enthusiasm of the Ron Paul Supporters. Have said many times that for the Republican Party to be truly successful, we need to increase the base. That said, the newcomers (and oldtimes) need to accept the principles of the party and its endorsed candidates.

One thing for BPOU (actually Precinct) leadership to remember is that it is the mission of the Party to support endorsed Republican candidates; and, those who don’t abide by this are invariably removed from their positions. Has been done in the past; and, am sure that it will be done in the future.

By: MarianneS

MarianneS — Mon, 28 Apr 2008 15:31:53 +0000

One more time, then I think my fingers will fall off: the delegates did say they would support McCain after the nomination.

Sure. There are some Paul supporters out there who are becoming less and less happy with this party as they see that they’re not wanted. Don’t we WANT them to feel welcome, to feel like they can rally around the GOP candidates, like they’ve had a seat at the table?

We’re talking about the caucus attendees, and many of THEM were newbies. Those who have made it up through the delegate ranks tend to be more of the oldtimers. And they’re really starting to grumble.

WHY? Why do you want to get rid of perfectly good voters?

Eh, y’all haven’t been answering that question, as many times as I’ve asked it, so I won’t continue beat my head against the wall trying to reason with you.