Comments on: Did Evangelicals Hand McCain The Nod? http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/ A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:28:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Sam http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41225 Sam Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:52:38 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41225 I also should add that the basic premise of both this and Captain article are wrong. If you look at Evangelical vote it tended to spilt across all candidates. It was non-evangelicals that tended to vote against Huckabee (and flocked to McCain). So in addition to the bigotry of the article it is also factually wrong. Mitt problem is that he could not get people to vote for him. And it had nothing to do with Religion, it has to do with his record. I also should add that the basic premise of both this and Captain article are wrong.
If you look at Evangelical vote it tended to spilt across all candidates.
It was non-evangelicals that tended to vote against Huckabee (and flocked to McCain).

So in addition to the bigotry of the article it is also factually wrong.

Mitt problem is that he could not get people to vote for him. And it had nothing to do with Religion, it has to do with his record.

]]> By: Sam http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41224 Sam Mon, 18 Feb 2008 18:12:53 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41224 The only "religious bigotry" I saw was here against Huckabee and other who profess religious beliefs. And which group of people is threating to pout this election and not vote (Rush, Ann Coulter, You). So are fiscal conservatives a reliable group? The answer to both is yes, when you have a reliable candidate. Mitt Romney was neither fiscally nor socially conservative. As for the "that the base has its own ability to choose candidates" - Actually what it shows is that a candidate who spends 5-10 times what the others did and has his campaign make three separates visit, is able to win a meaningless straw poll while the other candidates won actual delegates in states that mattered. The only “religious bigotry” I saw was here against Huckabee and other who profess religious beliefs.

And which group of people is threating to pout this election and not vote (Rush, Ann Coulter, You).

So are fiscal conservatives a reliable group?

The answer to both is yes, when you have a reliable candidate.

Mitt Romney was neither fiscally nor socially conservative.

As for the “that the base has its own ability to choose candidates” - Actually what it shows is that a candidate who spends 5-10 times what the others did and has his campaign make three separates visit, is able to win a meaningless straw poll while the other candidates won actual delegates in states that mattered.

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41223 J. Ewing Mon, 18 Feb 2008 15:49:40 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2008/02/18/did-evangelicals-hand-mccain-the-nod/#comment-41223 Yes. That's the short answer. Evangelicals are the core of the conservative movement. Many of them are as interested in coservative foreign policy and conservative economics as they are in traditional values. The Republican platform prominently features those traditional values and, in fact, the very word "conservative" implies that traditional values are the essence of conservative thought AND the conservative movement. If you are going to excuse those like yourself who found Fred Thompson or some other candidate better reflected their "conservative" financial or national security values, you ought to extend that same magnanimity towards the socially conservative evangelicals, right? Yes. That’s the short answer. Evangelicals are the core of the conservative movement. Many of them are as interested in coservative foreign policy and conservative economics as they are in traditional values. The Republican platform prominently features those traditional values and, in fact, the very word “conservative” implies that traditional values are the essence of conservative thought AND the conservative movement.

If you are going to excuse those like yourself who found Fred Thompson or some other candidate better reflected their “conservative” financial or national security values, you ought to extend that same magnanimity towards the socially conservative evangelicals, right?

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