Comments on: Pawlenty’s Latest ‘Interest’ Should Set Off Alarms …. http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/ A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy Sun, 23 Nov 2008 10:25:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40025 J. Ewing Tue, 30 Oct 2007 19:29:41 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40025 When it comes to "Global Warming," I'm willing to take that chance. The "problem" is so ridiculously overblown-- it's actually a complete hoax-- and the solutions so drastic and unnecessary, that you are going to sound a little wacko if all you propose is doing nothing. That's what I propose. Granted, the more people of any political stripe that we can convince on this, the easier it will be to persuade our "leaders" to slow down the pace. When it comes to “Global Warming,” I’m willing to take that chance. The “problem” is so ridiculously overblown– it’s actually a complete hoax– and the solutions so drastic and unnecessary, that you are going to sound a little wacko if all you propose is doing nothing. That’s what I propose. Granted, the more people of any political stripe that we can convince on this, the easier it will be to persuade our “leaders” to slow down the pace.

]]> By: bmetzler http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40023 bmetzler Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:25:55 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40023 <i>Having them questioned about their nuttiness whenever they show up for a forum would force them to consider that they might not be “leaders” if they don’t have anyone following them on the issue.</i> I doubt it. It would probably just make conservatives look as crazy as the whacko's on the left who question Clinton about 9/11 being an inside job. Governor Pawlenty and Senator Coleman already know that they have a lot of Repulicans following them on their issues, and a lot of conservatives who do nothing but whine and complain. Being a whacko nutter at forums is going to get peoples attention, but maybe not the way you want. Getting more conservatives involved in the political process is probably a little more productive. Brent Having them questioned about their nuttiness whenever they show up for a forum would force them to consider that they might not be “leaders” if they don’t have anyone following them on the issue.

I doubt it. It would probably just make conservatives look as crazy as the whacko’s on the left who question Clinton about 9/11 being an inside job.

Governor Pawlenty and Senator Coleman already know that they have a lot of Repulicans following them on their issues, and a lot of conservatives who do nothing but whine and complain. Being a whacko nutter at forums is going to get peoples attention, but maybe not the way you want. Getting more conservatives involved in the political process is probably a little more productive.

Brent

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40022 J. Ewing Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:00:06 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40022 E-85 might even get him a few more elections, until we can't afford corn flakes and STILL cannot plant enough corn to meet the required percentage. E-85 might even get him a few more elections, until we can’t afford corn flakes and STILL cannot plant enough corn to meet the required percentage.

]]> By: R-Five http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40021 R-Five Tue, 30 Oct 2007 03:33:40 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40021 Pawlenty owes his second term to E-85, so it's reasonable that he should be now be in the enviro-loon's camp. Pawlenty owes his second term to E-85, so it’s reasonable that he should be now be in the enviro-loon’s camp.

]]> By: Truth v. The Machine » Archives » It ain’t easy being green http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40020 Truth v. The Machine » Archives » It ain’t easy being green Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:28:14 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40020 [...] at RF, Andy was nonplussed. I believe that Gov. Pawlenty has done more to beat back true conservatism than the DFL legislative [...] [...] at RF, Andy was nonplussed. I believe that Gov. Pawlenty has done more to beat back true conservatism than the DFL legislative [...]

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40019 J. Ewing Mon, 29 Oct 2007 23:19:30 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40019 I think a press release from the party would do wonders for both of them. Having people deny them money because of their nuttiness would work wonders. Having them questioned about their nuttiness whenever they show up for a forum would force them to consider that they might not be "leaders" if they don't have anyone following them on the issue. I think a press release from the party would do wonders for both of them. Having people deny them money because of their nuttiness would work wonders. Having them questioned about their nuttiness whenever they show up for a forum would force them to consider that they might not be “leaders” if they don’t have anyone following them on the issue.

]]> By: Sam http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40018 Sam Mon, 29 Oct 2007 22:53:31 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40018 "Pawlenty is going off the deep end on Al Gore environuttiness." "I would consider it an act of political war on conservatism" Pawlenty has not gone anywhere, he is where he has always been - to the left. He declared war long ago (Taxes, Spending, Transportation etc..) just no one listen when told. Andy, The time to do something about McPlenty was before his endorsement and election. Now, what does he care what you think - he is getting good press and he already got the support and votes from you he needed. The question is what are you going to do about the other Statewide RINO who has not been endorsed or elected yet. Norm is up for election and has already left the reservation many times. He also is on the Corn/Bio Global Warming band wagon. I could careless what we do with Tim, a press release from the party, so what - We are stuck with him for years - But what are you going to do about Norm. “Pawlenty is going off the deep end on Al Gore environuttiness.”
“I would consider it an act of political war on conservatism”

Pawlenty has not gone anywhere, he is where he has always been - to the left.
He declared war long ago (Taxes, Spending, Transportation etc..) just no one listen when told.

Andy, The time to do something about McPlenty was before his endorsement and election.
Now, what does he care what you think - he is getting good press and he already got the support and votes from you he needed.

The question is what are you going to do about the other Statewide RINO who has not been endorsed or elected yet.
Norm is up for election and has already left the reservation many times.
He also is on the Corn/Bio Global Warming band wagon.

I could careless what we do with Tim, a press release from the party, so what - We are stuck with him for years - But what are you going to do about Norm.

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40015 J. Ewing Mon, 29 Oct 2007 15:23:51 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40015 Andy, I understand your frustration and agree with it, but I think you're missing the big picture, here. It isn't that the Governor is taking a shot at conservatives or conservatism, it's that he is violating the most basic rules of common sense. Yes, the arctic may be warming. Is that all bad? Tell me, Governor, did you see any large concentrations of manmade CO2 when you were there? Do you think CO2, manmade or otherwise, caused what you saw, because it never has in the last 600,000 years. Both Nobel Peace Prize winners, Al Gore and the IPCC, AGREE that CO2 does not cause global warming, why do you want to insist it does, and then ruin our economy with the WRONG solution to a non-existent problem? That's not straying from conservatism, that's NUTS. Andy, I understand your frustration and agree with it, but I think you’re missing the big picture, here. It isn’t that the Governor is taking a shot at conservatives or conservatism, it’s that he is violating the most basic rules of common sense. Yes, the arctic may be warming. Is that all bad? Tell me, Governor, did you see any large concentrations of manmade CO2 when you were there? Do you think CO2, manmade or otherwise, caused what you saw, because it never has in the last 600,000 years. Both Nobel Peace Prize winners, Al Gore and the IPCC, AGREE that CO2 does not cause global warming, why do you want to insist it does, and then ruin our economy with the WRONG solution to a non-existent problem? That’s not straying from conservatism, that’s NUTS.

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40014 Andy Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:55:48 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40014 The Party has to distance the Party message as a whole from Republicans who take liberal stances on major issues. Pawlenty and his environuttiness, erossion of freedoms, and the expansion of Government into our daily lives. Coleman on ANWR & SCHIP You don't have to completely demonize the official, but you do have to point out when they are wrong on an issue so near and dear to the heart of the grassroots of the party. I did try to help solve the biggest problem I saw in doing this, Party leadership. I was defeated but I refuse to believe that more of the same is going to reverse our downward course. Luckily the Ex Comm is standing up and being heard as intended, and being far more than a rubber stamp. There is a behind the scenes change taking place, but unfortunately, not what we need, as in public displays of disappointment or opposition. The base needs to see and hear that someone is actually standing up for their values, no matter who is opposing them. When a Republican supports fringe liberal issues, that should not stop the Party from attacking the leader of a State for bowing at the altar of Al Gore fear mongering to propel socialist agendas. (yes go look at the "cures" for Global Climate Change, its miraculously close to communism.) RINOs have been in control of this party for some time. During that same course we've been headed towards irrelevancy. We've lost election after election with the message of moderation. Sure individuals like Pawlenty have survived, but as whole, the Party suffered for that. Do you believe that more of the same is going to correct our trend? The Party leaders need to stand up and defend the values we hold near and dear and fight back at the liberalism that is on the march. If there just so happens that a Republican gets caught in the cross fire so be it. Chalk it up to collateral damage. But to sit back and do nothing is in fact aiding the spread of liberalism. This is one of those make or break moments. Either the party sits back and watches Pawlenty erode more freedoms, or it fights back to stop the monster they helped create. The Party has to distance the Party message as a whole from Republicans who take liberal stances on major issues.

Pawlenty and his environuttiness, erossion of freedoms, and the expansion of Government into our daily lives.

Coleman on ANWR & SCHIP

You don’t have to completely demonize the official, but you do have to point out when they are wrong on an issue so near and dear to the heart of the grassroots of the party.

I did try to help solve the biggest problem I saw in doing this, Party leadership. I was defeated but I refuse to believe that more of the same is going to reverse our downward course. Luckily the Ex Comm is standing up and being heard as intended, and being far more than a rubber stamp. There is a behind the scenes change taking place, but unfortunately, not what we need, as in public displays of disappointment or opposition.

The base needs to see and hear that someone is actually standing up for their values, no matter who is opposing them. When a Republican supports fringe liberal issues, that should not stop the Party from attacking the leader of a State for bowing at the altar of Al Gore fear mongering to propel socialist agendas. (yes go look at the “cures” for Global Climate Change, its miraculously close to communism.)

RINOs have been in control of this party for some time. During that same course we’ve been headed towards irrelevancy. We’ve lost election after election with the message of moderation. Sure individuals like Pawlenty have survived, but as whole, the Party suffered for that.

Do you believe that more of the same is going to correct our trend?

The Party leaders need to stand up and defend the values we hold near and dear and fight back at the liberalism that is on the march. If there just so happens that a Republican gets caught in the cross fire so be it. Chalk it up to collateral damage. But to sit back and do nothing is in fact aiding the spread of liberalism.

This is one of those make or break moments. Either the party sits back and watches Pawlenty erode more freedoms, or it fights back to stop the monster they helped create.

]]> By: bmetzler http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40013 bmetzler Mon, 29 Oct 2007 14:27:14 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/10/29/pawlentys-latest-interest-should-set-off-alarms/#comment-40013 <i>It is time for movement conservatives to retake control of this party and the messaging.</i> How do you intend to do that? -Brent It is time for movement conservatives to retake control of this party and the messaging.

How do you intend to do that?

-Brent

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