Comments on: Debate Over Rail on New Bridge, Is a Waste of Time http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/ A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy Fri, 21 Nov 2008 23:36:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39285 montanaliberal Thu, 23 Aug 2007 15:59:45 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39285 sheesh, wasn't even directed at you or anyone specific... whatever sheesh, wasn’t even directed at you or anyone specific…

whatever

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39256 Andy Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:02:05 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39256 Clean up the language or you are done here. Clean up the language or you are done here.

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39254 montanaliberal Wed, 22 Aug 2007 22:50:42 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39254 Pawlenty doesn't tow the party line, he sways with the wind, meaning he too doesn't think for himself very much, just what's popular and his attempt at being a moderate. politicians are all fucking slime, about 90% of them, Republican or Democrat, why more people don't realize this and still feel they need to belong to one party of the other is way beyond me... strength in numbers i guess? Pawlenty doesn’t tow the party line, he sways with the wind, meaning he too doesn’t think for himself very much, just what’s popular and his attempt at being a moderate.

politicians are all fucking slime, about 90% of them, Republican or Democrat, why more people don’t realize this and still feel they need to belong to one party of the other is way beyond me…

strength in numbers i guess?

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39218 Andy Wed, 22 Aug 2007 15:35:42 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39218 What is the party line on this issue? Oh yeah, the opposite of the conservative values that I use to make such decisions on what i support or oppose. Does the program or project benefit enough people to make it worth while for the Gov. to take it over or fund it..... Light rail, especially a hypothetical line not yet studied, let alone one that would fit with in the existing area proposed..... NO! As based on your accusation that people like me can't think for themselves, I assume you think Pawlenty is just swell since he is open to socialized transportation. What is the party line on this issue?

Oh yeah, the opposite of the conservative values that I use to make such decisions on what i support or oppose.

Does the program or project benefit enough people to make it worth while for the Gov. to take it over or fund it…..

Light rail, especially a hypothetical line not yet studied, let alone one that would fit with in the existing area proposed….. NO!

As based on your accusation that people like me can’t think for themselves, I assume you think Pawlenty is just swell since he is open to socialized transportation.

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39213 montanaliberal Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:38:32 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39213 "Not saying your friends are liberals, but people can support issues on both sides of the isle, they just can’t claim something is conservative because they are center right." no, they think for themselves and don't tow the party line, which is how everyone should think politically, no matter whether or not you're right, left, center or not. “Not saying your friends are liberals, but people can support issues on both sides of the isle, they just can’t claim something is conservative because they are center right.”

no, they think for themselves and don’t tow the party line, which is how everyone should think politically, no matter whether or not you’re right, left, center or not.

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39202 Andy Wed, 22 Aug 2007 11:56:01 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39202 Just cause you didn't hear them, doesn't mean it didn't happen. And sometimes people who say they are conservative fall prey to liberal tendancies. A lot of them are just plain of fighting you liberals, and give an inch in hopes of you not taking a mile. Others end up supporting liberal issues because they stand to benefit.... like LRT is being proposed for their routes.... But the conservative opinion is clear, public funding for skeleton minorities of the population is a pretty goll darn liberal position. Not saying your friends are liberals, but people can support issues on both sides of the isle, they just can't claim something is conservative because they are center right. Oh and don't worry, all the liberal and media pressure has gotten to Pawlenty and the admin, they are going to sink $30 million of state money to make RT and the other social engineers happy. Congrats! more money siphoned out of transportation coffers to benefit a few.... Just cause you didn’t hear them, doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.

And sometimes people who say they are conservative fall prey to liberal tendancies. A lot of them are just plain of fighting you liberals, and give an inch in hopes of you not taking a mile. Others end up supporting liberal issues because they stand to benefit…. like LRT is being proposed for their routes….

But the conservative opinion is clear, public funding for skeleton minorities of the population is a pretty goll darn liberal position.

Not saying your friends are liberals, but people can support issues on both sides of the isle, they just can’t claim something is conservative because they are center right.

Oh and don’t worry, all the liberal and media pressure has gotten to Pawlenty and the admin, they are going to sink $30 million of state money to make RT and the other social engineers happy.

Congrats! more money siphoned out of transportation coffers to benefit a few….

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39191 montanaliberal Wed, 22 Aug 2007 06:06:29 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39191 i didn't read the Strib article, just saw a news report on it (not sure which, CCO or ABC), the city officially didn't specifically dictate where exactly the LRT option over it would end up, just that the option should be on the table and considered at least, i don't think that is asking too much nor do i find that to be a political thing. thing is, i have DOZENS of conservative friends who live in the metro and are ALL for LRT, so Andy and others that read here who are totally against it are not the only right wing opinion on the matter, even if it's portrayed as such. i didn’t read the Strib article, just saw a news report on it (not sure which, CCO or ABC), the city officially didn’t specifically dictate where exactly the LRT option over it would end up, just that the option should be on the table and considered at least, i don’t think that is asking too much nor do i find that to be a political thing.

thing is, i have DOZENS of conservative friends who live in the metro and are ALL for LRT, so Andy and others that read here who are totally against it are not the only right wing opinion on the matter, even if it’s portrayed as such.

]]> By: the Lady Logician http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39186 the Lady Logician Wed, 22 Aug 2007 00:57:45 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39186 ML - the thing is the City of Minneapolis is DEMANDING that the new bridge be able to handle the CENTRAL CORRIDOR - they said so in last week's joint Transportation Committee Meeting. I know a couple people who were there that heard it. The Star Tribune - IN THEIR OWN WORDS - admit it is being considered and admits that it is a foolish idea. I agree that we should build it a la the Bloomington Ferry Bridge (ready to add LRT if needed) but moving the Central Corridor is an idea that needs to die out fast! LL ML - the thing is the City of Minneapolis is DEMANDING that the new bridge be able to handle the CENTRAL CORRIDOR - they said so in last week’s joint Transportation Committee Meeting. I know a couple people who were there that heard it. The Star Tribune - IN THEIR OWN WORDS - admit it is being considered and admits that it is a foolish idea.

I agree that we should build it a la the Bloomington Ferry Bridge (ready to add LRT if needed) but moving the Central Corridor is an idea that needs to die out fast!

LL

]]> By: cooper http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39183 cooper Tue, 21 Aug 2007 15:41:04 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39183 I don't get the reason for the arguments over rebuilding the bridge either. Look at http://steamvalveblog.typepad.com/ I don’t get the reason for the arguments over rebuilding the bridge either. Look at http://steamvalveblog.typepad.com/

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39180 montanaliberal Tue, 21 Aug 2007 14:29:17 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/2007/08/19/debate-over-rail-on-new-bridge-is-a-waste-of-time/#comment-39180 also, the argument that just because there was never any talk of running LRT over the 35W bridge prior to it collapsing doesn't mean it isn't possibly viable, it's just nobody expected us to have to build a new 35W bridge for another 15 years... again, i'm not saying it SHOULD be built, but it should at least be taken into account and considered. Molnau initially just wrote it off without even having people look into it seriously. also, the argument that just because there was never any talk of running LRT over the 35W bridge prior to it collapsing doesn’t mean it isn’t possibly viable, it’s just nobody expected us to have to build a new 35W bridge for another 15 years…

again, i’m not saying it SHOULD be built, but it should at least be taken into account and considered. Molnau initially just wrote it off without even having people look into it seriously.

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