And saying “don’t be stupid” is no more or less a statement of fact than calling me a lefty. You were being stupid in trying to argue that Saddam Hussein was tried first for a reasonably small massacre because “The larger of the Kurdish massacres had no witnesses. They were either murdered or were too afraid of the government to testify.”

Which is well… stupid.

Which by the way, you didn’t have any logical refutation for either. Just victimization. God you Republicans playing the whiners all the time. Thats why you’re such losers, always with the whining and victimization and never with standing up and taking charge of your destiny.

So, just to follow up:

1.Do you dispute that several times in the last oh, 40 years, the United States has violated the soverignty of certian countries that benefitted our interest? You’re strangely silent on that charge.

2.That Republicans have been marginalizing the UN for the last 50 years, from Robert Taft to Walrus Whatshisnuts– and trying to use that organization then as a valid cause for going to war is kind of silly– figuring as you’ve spent the last 50 years complaining about how worthless it is?

3.Do you support every policy of the Clinton administration, or like Joe Bodell, do you disagree with America, and ergo, are a dirty America hating traitor?

Sean

“Dont be stupid LL. ”

So this is how you back up your opinion - call those who disagree with you stupid?

LL

America being, like, what I think it is all by myself late at night after a six pack of Milwaukee’s Best, a package of Twinkies, and five hours of reading Little Green Footballs.

Sean, about that Pogie thing you got going….maybe you should invest in some wet wipes…I hear they are good for sudden spills and will help with that nasty chin chaffing too…..

Republicans have been marginalizing the UN as an institution since Robert Taft, going so far as to block paying of UN dues for quite a while. And I just find it kind of ironic that you trot around flouting UN resolutions, when you I would bet, and some of the Republicans in this country have never believed in the viability of the organization to begin with.

LL– you don’t have any news for me– unlike swiftee I am no drooling retard– I just was highlighting the absurdity of your argument that if somehow violating UN resolutions was an occupation worthy offense, you and swiftee and residue are going to have a lot of wars to gear up for.

To go a little further, your comment about “the Iraqi govm’t is soverign” is kind of absurd. America and people like Jeane Kirkpatrick, and swiftnutz have never lost sleep about violating the soverignty of any Government it should so choose. So much so that the CIA helped the Baath party in Iraq assassinate the leader of the country in the 60’s because he wasn’t as receptive to American interests as the Baath party was (with the appropriate money and gun shipments of course).

We didn’t care about the soverign government of Iran or Chile but we thought that daddy knew better, so we did that special black hand thing we do.

Don’t try and baffle me with bullshit, the American government respects the soverignty of governments that it chooses to, and only if they’re going to be friendly to the American government.

Finally– that there was enough evidence to convict of this crime but there wasn’t of the murders in Halabja (using planes that we gave to him btw) is pretty damn absurd. It would be like saying “You have to prosecute the Nazi’s for that one village they burned down first, because the holocaust is gonna be harder to pin on them.”

Dont be stupid LL.

I just saw Pogie on TV– gosh hes a dashing fella.

Sean

Regardless of what you or AAA or Swiftee want, the Iraqi government is sovereign. We are only their at their convenience. We overstep our authority and we are gone…We can not interfere in their judiciary.

Regarding my “newfound love and respect” for the UN….you lefties are the ones who worship at the altar of UN sanction. The UN didn’t want us to go into Iraq and the left screamed that we went in without “authority”. Are you now suggesting that we go into the Sudan without appropriate UN approval?????

I have news for you on Israel. If we go after them for “human rights violations” then we had best go after Syria, Iran and Palestine. Are you up for that action too?

LL

Just an FYI– if you communicate better than that, you might have more luck convincing voters of the rightiousness of your cause.

Other wise you can just keep to the internet activism, although given the fact that Ron Carey still reigns over the MNGoop you might not be doing too well on that front either.

Sean