Comments on: Shocking, Strib - Crime Up ‘Sharply’ in Minneapolis http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/ A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:55:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: DJZ http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31400 DJZ Wed, 03 Jan 2007 11:51:51 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31400 I'm gonna cry... I used murder (which you admit is up) because its the consistent crime that...nevermind. I give up. I’m gonna cry…
I used murder (which you admit is up) because its the consistent crime that…nevermind. I give up.

]]> By: The Lady Logician http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31348 The Lady Logician Tue, 02 Jan 2007 15:16:54 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31348 From today's Chicago Sun Times DJ - Homicides up but VIOLENT CRIME DOWN! http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/193998,CST-NWS-crime02.article From today’s Chicago Sun Times DJ - Homicides up but VIOLENT CRIME DOWN!

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/193998,CST-NWS-crime02.article

]]> By: the Lady Logician http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31281 the Lady Logician Mon, 01 Jan 2007 01:49:24 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31281 No but the DA DOES have jurisdiction over his/her county. Since we ARE talking about Minneapolis (Hennepin County) as opposed to St Paul (Ramsey County) or Duluth (St. Louis County). This is not Chicago, this is Minnesota. The DA may not have jurisdiction over federal cases, but over rape and robbery and murder in her county, Ms. Klobuchar HAD jurisdiction. LL No but the DA DOES have jurisdiction over his/her county. Since we ARE talking about Minneapolis (Hennepin County) as opposed to St Paul (Ramsey County) or Duluth (St. Louis County). This is not Chicago, this is Minnesota. The DA may not have jurisdiction over federal cases, but over rape and robbery and murder in her county, Ms. Klobuchar HAD jurisdiction.

LL

]]> By: DJZ http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31268 DJZ Sun, 31 Dec 2006 21:33:40 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31268 *sigh* I'm saying that the DA doesn't have the same jurisdiction over crime in every state. For instance in Chicago, the city attorney and states attorney office handle a lot of violent crime that our AG office and city attorneys do not. It's all about how the different state consitutions and local ordinances over crime. The one thing that's consistent are the murder charges. The DA seems to have jurisdiction over these cases across the board. So, comparing murder rates is applicable to DA and CA offices across the board. Violent crime is too generic a term that is broad in actual crime activity. If the murder rate is going up in major metro areas across the nation, then its hard for you to lay your arguement at the feet of a lone Prosecutor. It's, illogical. Didn't the people of Minnesota already decide that Amy Klobuchar was good enough to be their Senator and Mark Kennedy, who was already serving in Congress didn't measure up? *sigh*
I’m saying that the DA doesn’t have the same jurisdiction over crime in every state.
For instance in Chicago, the city attorney and states attorney office handle a lot of violent crime that our AG office and city attorneys do not. It’s all about how the different state consitutions and local ordinances over crime. The one thing that’s consistent are the murder charges. The DA seems to have jurisdiction over these cases across the board.
So, comparing murder rates is applicable to DA and CA offices across the board. Violent crime is too generic a term that is broad in actual crime activity.

If the murder rate is going up in major metro areas across the nation, then its hard for you to lay your arguement at the feet of a lone Prosecutor. It’s, illogical.

Didn’t the people of Minnesota already decide that Amy Klobuchar was good enough to be their Senator and Mark Kennedy, who was already serving in Congress didn’t measure up?

]]> By: the Lady Logician http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31263 the Lady Logician Sun, 31 Dec 2006 20:17:15 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31263 So DJ are you really saying that the DA doesn't prosecute crimes other than murder? Are you really saying the don't prosecute rape and robbery and fraud, because if you are then Ms. Klobuchar could be herself prosecuted for prosecutorial malfeasance. LL So DJ are you really saying that the DA doesn’t prosecute crimes other than murder? Are you really saying the don’t prosecute rape and robbery and fraud, because if you are then Ms. Klobuchar could be herself prosecuted for prosecutorial malfeasance.

LL

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31212 montanaliberal Sat, 30 Dec 2006 18:11:19 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31212 Andy, you did the same exact thing yourself in the thread below this. Pot. Kettle. Black. Andy, you did the same exact thing yourself in the thread below this. Pot. Kettle. Black.

]]> By: DJZ http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31203 DJZ Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:46:21 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31203 Ummm, Scroll back I did explain why I went with the murder rate. I'll repeat it, "I went with murder because its a crime that is prosecuted by District Attorneys and County Attorneys. It makes it relevant to the A-Klo theory that Andy is putting forth. Some violent crime is handled by the city and other by the States Attorney depending on what region you’re in. Murder is the consistent factor." Ummm, Scroll back I did explain why I went with the murder rate. I’ll repeat it,

“I went with murder because its a crime that is prosecuted by District Attorneys and County Attorneys. It makes it relevant to the A-Klo theory that Andy is putting forth. Some violent crime is handled by the city and other by the States Attorney depending on what region you’re in. Murder is the consistent factor.”

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31202 Andy Sat, 30 Dec 2006 16:33:04 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31202 You don't understand LL, anything to try to discredit me is OK. Yes, taking a story about one thing, then YOU are supposed to change the subject entirely in the comments, that way they can claim I make no sense. Pay attention, it is the feverswamp comment troll way. You don’t understand LL, anything to try to discredit me is OK. Yes, taking a story about one thing, then YOU are supposed to change the subject entirely in the comments, that way they can claim I make no sense. Pay attention, it is the feverswamp comment troll way.

]]> By: the Lady Logician http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31198 the Lady Logician Sat, 30 Dec 2006 15:41:55 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31198 Yes but Andy's story was on violent crime overall.....We should be comparing apples to apples, not apples to oranges. That's one reason why I didn't post the murder storys. Yes but Andy’s story was on violent crime overall…..We should be comparing apples to apples, not apples to oranges. That’s one reason why I didn’t post the murder storys.

]]> By: montanaliberal http://www.residualforces.com/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31195 montanaliberal Sat, 30 Dec 2006 06:57:13 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/12/29/shocking-strib-crime-up-sharply-in-minneapolis/#comment-31195 right, but we only stated Murder, not like we were claiming otherwise :) right, but we only stated Murder, not like we were claiming otherwise :)

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