Comments on: Hope Floats, But We’re Still Up a Creek http://www.residualforces.com/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/ A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:46:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30516 J. Ewing Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:17:33 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30516 Some people need to learn to accept half a loaf rather than burning down the bakery. Some people need to learn to accept half a loaf rather than burning down the bakery.

]]> By: Andy http://www.residualforces.com/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30514 Andy Wed, 29 Nov 2006 17:39:57 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30514 Listen you sideline arm chair quarterback. I busted my ass for a real conservative candidate coming down the stretch. All your bomb throwing and insults you've been tossing at me is exactly why you failed. Unlike you who walks in demands the sky, then goes home and pouts when everyone laughs, I am trying to fix my party. Oh and I never voted for Carey. I called it a bloody mutiny. Oh and another thing Pawlenty is not a socialist likle someof you have been saying. Get a life, get involved, or just go home and shut up. I can say I told you so for many things too. Right now I am trying to fix the damn party so that it can stand up for conservative values. Listen you sideline arm chair quarterback. I busted my ass for a real conservative candidate coming down the stretch. All your bomb throwing and insults you’ve been tossing at me is exactly why you failed.

Unlike you who walks in demands the sky, then goes home and pouts when everyone laughs, I am trying to fix my party.

Oh and I never voted for Carey. I called it a bloody mutiny.

Oh and another thing Pawlenty is not a socialist likle someof you have been saying. Get a life, get involved, or just go home and shut up.

I can say I told you so for many things too. Right now I am trying to fix the damn party so that it can stand up for conservative values.

]]> By: Sam http://www.residualforces.com/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30512 Sam Wed, 29 Nov 2006 16:51:58 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30512 Enough is Enough. If I see one more of you self congratulatory post about how you will save the party or how badly the election was run or how Pawlenty is turning out to be a moderate I will puke. People were trying to tell you for over two years this, but you were too busy either cheerleading for Pawlenty or calling them names. And now that Pawlenty turn out to be who everyone told you he would be you are shocked and outraged. The time to act was before the election. Pawlenty is your man! Ron Carey was just doing what YOU asked and encouraged him to do. Election have consequences and you have yet to accept your role in encouraging and defending the moderation of the party. Enough is Enough.
If I see one more of you self congratulatory post about how you will save the party or how badly the election was run or how Pawlenty is turning out to be a moderate I will puke.

People were trying to tell you for over two years this, but you were too busy either cheerleading for Pawlenty or calling them names.

And now that Pawlenty turn out to be who everyone told you he would be you are shocked and outraged.

The time to act was before the election.

Pawlenty is your man! Ron Carey was just doing what YOU asked and encouraged him to do.

Election have consequences and you have yet to accept your role in encouraging and defending the moderation of the party.

]]> By: J. Ewing http://www.residualforces.com/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30506 J. Ewing Wed, 29 Nov 2006 14:59:08 +0000 http://www.residualforces.com/http:/residualforces.com/index.php/2006/11/29/hope-floats-but-were-still-up-a-creek/#comment-30506 Maybe? From 20-20 hindsight, I expect a lot better than "maybe." But I don't want to re-fight the last election. I want to know where we go from here, and I think Ron Carey has the right prescription. If it is as you say, that money was spent to re-elect Pawlenty at the expense of other candidates (I don't know that, but I don't know lots of things), then it is time for a little old-fashioned "party discipline." The State Party needs to have some mechanism of receiving "payback" for its investments of volunteer time and money, such as some fealty to the principles of the Party. I certainly expect that to be understood, by all candidates, by the time the '08 cycle rolls around, and these Task Forces should be putting those policies and enforcement mechanisms into place. But I don't know that it is too late now to exercise some restraint on our elected officials, to convince them to exercise some restraint with the taxpayer's dollar. We all need to talk through how that can be done. Soon. Maybe? From 20-20 hindsight, I expect a lot better than “maybe.” But I don’t want to re-fight the last election. I want to know where we go from here, and I think Ron Carey has the right prescription. If it is as you say, that money was spent to re-elect Pawlenty at the expense of other candidates (I don’t know that, but I don’t know lots of things), then it is time for a little old-fashioned “party discipline.” The State Party needs to have some mechanism of receiving “payback” for its investments of volunteer time and money, such as some fealty to the principles of the Party. I certainly expect that to be understood, by all candidates, by the time the ‘08 cycle rolls around, and these Task Forces should be putting those policies and enforcement mechanisms into place. But I don’t know that it is too late now to exercise some restraint on our elected officials, to convince them to exercise some restraint with the taxpayer’s dollar. We all need to talk through how that can be done. Soon.

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