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	<title>Comments on: So When Did It Become Bad to be Gay?</title>
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	<description>A Stream of Consciousness by Andy Aplikowski on His Life, His Politics, His Dogs, His Truck, and Whatever Pleases His Fancy</description>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.residualforces.com/2006/10/09/so-when-did-it-become-bad-to-be-gay/#comment-25420</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well said Andy although you may be conceding too much in the sentence "The only sex that was had was with 2 adult males." DJZ like most Dems is confused on whether he's going for the "Republicans are anti gay" line or the "some Republicans are gay and gay enablers" angle. Either one is fine for them if it can be seen to justify Republican disclosure or lack of disclosure. Talk about distractions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well said Andy although you may be conceding too much in the sentence &#8220;The only sex that was had was with 2 adult males.&#8221; DJZ like most Dems is confused on whether he&#8217;s going for the &#8220;Republicans are anti gay&#8221; line or the &#8220;some Republicans are gay and gay enablers&#8221; angle. Either one is fine for them if it can be seen to justify Republican disclosure or lack of disclosure. Talk about distractions</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, BTW: I hope you got the sense of sataire from the main post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, BTW: I hope you got the sense of sataire from the main post.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Oct 2006 02:00:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hold on. 

Where did "GOPers acknowledge knowing about this"? And what did they know?

Did he prop them, or just ask weird questions?

Oh, and I already went NAMBLA somewhere. :lol:

But seriously, I do not and will never defend what he did, whether legal or not. But I don't think this is a systematic cover up. 

We do need to know exactly who knew exactly what and when.

Here's a hypo for you:
What if Rep. DeLay had heard that a GOP Rep was emailing with male pages, and was gay, and DeLay called for an investigation? Wouldn't you think this would have been turned into an even uglier circus?

And as for the predatoring, I have seen that it was the pages who found out Foley was gay, and were pulling a prank on him. Should he have resisted sending homosexual messages? in my right wing christian mind, absolutely, but that is exactly what I'm strereotyped as I would say. Same with the others there. Had they jumped to conclusions, all hell would hav ebroken loose.

From what I think we know. No minors were physically abused. The only sex that was had was with 2 adult males.

From all the crap I've had spewed at me for supporting a marriage amendment, that ain't wrong, and in fact fine, and should be allowed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hold on. </p>
<p>Where did &#8220;GOPers acknowledge knowing about this&#8221;? And what did they know?</p>
<p>Did he prop them, or just ask weird questions?</p>
<p>Oh, and I already went NAMBLA somewhere. <img src='http://www.residualforces.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But seriously, I do not and will never defend what he did, whether legal or not. But I don&#8217;t think this is a systematic cover up. </p>
<p>We do need to know exactly who knew exactly what and when.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a hypo for you:<br />
What if Rep. DeLay had heard that a GOP Rep was emailing with male pages, and was gay, and DeLay called for an investigation? Wouldn&#8217;t you think this would have been turned into an even uglier circus?</p>
<p>And as for the predatoring, I have seen that it was the pages who found out Foley was gay, and were pulling a prank on him. Should he have resisted sending homosexual messages? in my right wing christian mind, absolutely, but that is exactly what I&#8217;m strereotyped as I would say. Same with the others there. Had they jumped to conclusions, all hell would hav ebroken loose.</p>
<p>From what I think we know. No minors were physically abused. The only sex that was had was with 2 adult males.</p>
<p>From all the crap I&#8217;ve had spewed at me for supporting a marriage amendment, that ain&#8217;t wrong, and in fact fine, and should be allowed.</p>
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		<title>By: DJZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 23:25:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're trying to be purposely misleading Andy.
Even if this was a girl/girls (ala Senator Packwood), it would be of interest because of the cover -up. The knowledge that Republicans admit to knowing of this and trying to handle it behind the scenes is enough.

It's the cover up that is the story.  Same with Clinton. Same with Nixon- well, it was the whole attempt to circumvent the Democratic process with Nixon. The act is always magnified by the decisions made after. 

Already Boehner, Kolbe, Reynolds, Alexander and even Hastert have admitted in one way or another in the last 10 days that Foley and his emails aren't new news. After thinking about it, they knew they didn't do all that they should've done.  So now we get, "Who knew about these emails?", "Why are they coming up now?" and “So When Did It Become Bad to be Gay?”. Sprinkle in some mention of Soros, Clinton and NAMBLA and you got yourself a real distraction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re trying to be purposely misleading Andy.<br />
Even if this was a girl/girls (ala Senator Packwood), it would be of interest because of the cover -up. The knowledge that Republicans admit to knowing of this and trying to handle it behind the scenes is enough.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the cover up that is the story.  Same with Clinton. Same with Nixon- well, it was the whole attempt to circumvent the Democratic process with Nixon. The act is always magnified by the decisions made after. </p>
<p>Already Boehner, Kolbe, Reynolds, Alexander and even Hastert have admitted in one way or another in the last 10 days that Foley and his emails aren&#8217;t new news. After thinking about it, they knew they didn&#8217;t do all that they should&#8217;ve done.  So now we get, &#8220;Who knew about these emails?&#8221;, &#8220;Why are they coming up now?&#8221; and “So When Did It Become Bad to be Gay?”. Sprinkle in some mention of Soros, Clinton and NAMBLA and you got yourself a real distraction.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 20:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry DJZ,

But the you know what is hitting the fan because of a gay guy.

Are you saying that the second people found out Foley was gay that they should have immediately investigated him? Should they have suggested the worse?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry DJZ,</p>
<p>But the you know what is hitting the fan because of a gay guy.</p>
<p>Are you saying that the second people found out Foley was gay that they should have immediately investigated him? Should they have suggested the worse?</p>
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		<title>By: DJZ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJZ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Oct 2006 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Republicans took over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Republicans took over.</p>
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