http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/006151.php#6

It was all Niger from the beginning. And they KNEWE it was bullshit before the SOTU speech.

Thus, it was a HUGE lie. The Bush administration deliberately foisted the claim off on the Brits so they could avoid the technical charge that they lied. But, the result was outright fraud on the American people. They had very good reason to know that the Brits were wrong. But they said it anyway.

It was bullshit. Read this well-sourced analysis published on the Left Coaster blog. And, if you dismiss it because it’s a blog, or taht it’s a left-leaning site, without actually reading it and evaluating its sourcing, then that means you also think Powerlyin’ and this weblog are bullshit.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/005211.php#1

Here is the specigic debunking of the British report you are referring to. It wa nothing but an assocovering job. The Brits based their information on the same debunked Niger forgeries as everyone else, not on a seperate source. They are just lying to cover Blair and Bush’s asses.

http://www.theleftcoaster.com/archives/004909.php#4

Shoirt summary: The British word the Butler report very carefully to imply that Saddam also sought Uranium from a countryin Africa other than Niger (namely, the Republic of Congo). But, the CIA concluded that the Congo information had to be false because that country’s sole Uranium mine had been flooded and it was impossible to produce the tonnage required from other sources.

Plus, the Butler report ignores the Congo aspect of this in their conclusions, and only focuses on Niger. Which had been debunked BEFORE the SOTU speech by several US and CIA examinations. Not just Joe Wilson. But also the US ambassador to Niger and a Marine General. Not to mention the dicovery that the NIger documents were forgeries.

And now, there is growing evidence that the Niger forgeries may have been created or funnelled to Western Intelligence services by neocon wackos in the US.

You said Kerry said that according to…

Same – same? or not?

Who knows? Everythihg he’s saying now is a carbon copy of what he was saying during the 2004 canmpaign as a Bush campaign surrogate on TV talks shows and campaign events.

But, again you either delibverately missed my point or you are an idiot.

If Repya, the hack, is going to attack some other veteran such as Paul Reickhoff for being a “partisan,” he better damn well identify himself as one, or he looks like he’s trying to spread propaganda not give an honest opinion.

KKK = Kos Klowns Korp, I think you are thinking of another group, ask Sen. Bryd what it means.

Yes, I read that earlier. So if I called you guys “Neanderthal Asshole Zen Idiots” or “NAZIs” you wouldn’t object, right?

I thank Kerry, Cleland, Clark, etc for their time served in the military, just as I do anyone who wore the uniform. But I have heard from people who were in VN, and said that what Kerry said ‘he heard’ happened, never happened.

Never happened, that they were aware of, or that they will admit anyway. Unless they had 100% knowledge of everything that went on in Vietnam, their observations are meaningless.

So, maybe Kerry had a little 16 word incident. You know, the kind of incident of saying something like: “according to british intelligence Iraq has been trying to acquire yellow cake uranium from African nations”. I suppose you would shrug off the left’s attacks that Bush lied when he said that, based on your defense of Kerry here. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Oh wait, I suppose only the left does get to go on the offensive.

I’m consuded. You think Bush lied about the Iraq war? Or that Kerry told the truth about what he heard in Detroit at the Winter Soldiers meetings? Which is it? It certainly canbt be both, according you your formulation.

The difference, of course, is that the CIA TOLD Bush’s people before he made that statement that it wasn’t verifiable and that they couldn’t confirm it. Kerry got no such warnings. In fact, they took precautions to weed out fabricators.

But, again, that’s beside the point. Repya is a Bush flunky and hack. And he never admits his ties to the Bush campaign in 2004. Ever. And with good reason. If he did, nobody would take him seriously.

KKK = Kos Klowns Korp, I think you are thinking of another group, ask Sen. Bryd what it means.

I thank Kerry, Cleland, Clark, etc for their time served in the military, just as I do anyone who wore the uniform. But I have heard from people who were in VN, and said that what Kerry said ‘he heard’ happened, never happened.

So, maybe Kerry had a little 16 word incident. You know, the kind of incident of saying something like: “according to british intelligence Iraq has been trying to acquire yellow cake uranium from African nations”. I suppose you would shrug off the left’s attacks that Bush lied when he said that, based on your defense of Kerry here. What is good for the goose is good for the gander. Oh wait, I suppose only the left does get to go on the offensive.

What lies? Are you referring to his comment that he “heard stories” about atrocities committed by US troops, from the troops themsleves in Detroit? After he and his group had vetted them by requiring their honorable discharge papers, affidavits and corroborating witnesses? [One of the witnesses, for example, signed an affidavit and actually reported it to the mlitary authorities. It involved pushing Vietcong out of doors of airborne helicopters]

I don’t want to get into rehashing this bullshit from the campaign, but all he did was report what he heard. And accurately described it as barbaric behavior.

Then Andy said: “It seems to me that the only Vets you think have the right to speak in public are the ones who vote your way. So what if Repya is a Bush guy? Was not Cleland a Kerry guy? Clark became a Kerry guy? Are you demanding that they be silenced too, because they are partisan?”

It “seems” that way to you because you are a lunkhead who can’t read. I have never, ever said that Repya doesn’t have the right to express his opinions. he most certainly doies,. As does everyone in thsoe Midwest Heroes ads.

My point was that repya is an hypocritical partisan hack, who refuses to identoify himself as a partisan when he speaks. So as to camouflage his comments in the cloak os just another vet speaking his mind, as opposed to a Bush campaign/administration flack — which si what he is.

He obviously knows that if people were informed of this, they would discount his opinion. Just as you discount the opinions of Democratic veterans.

As for my insults, you all earened them. Your buddies accused me of being in the KKK and the gestpao. When you denounce their idiotic attacks, I’ll apologize for mine.

That the best ya got Hesoid? I do question Kerry’s motives after VN. Sorry, but once he came home and decided to stand up and lie, in front of Congress, about what was happening there, he opened the door for criticism.

Military service does not remove one from criticism in the public arena when you stick your neck out there like your examples say. If you’re gonna enter the public political arena, medals on the chest, are not shields from attacks.

It seems to me that the only Vets you think have the right to speak in public are the ones who vote your way. So what if Repya is a Bush guy? Was not Cleland a Kerry guy? Clark became a Kerry guy? Are you demanding that they be silenced too, because they are partisan?

My beef with Repya is that he’s a dishoinest hypocritical partisan hack. In all his letters he never identifies himself as a huge Pro-Bush partisan who was a member of his Minnesota campaign team. Even when Repya attacks the partisanship of OTHER veterans.

As for Repya being a hero, did that stop asshats like you from attackng John Kerry? Or Max Cleland, for that matter? I’m sure you will attack Wesley Clark when he runs for Preisdent as well. No amount of disguting attacks will be beneath you partisan lying hacks. [Wes Clark won a Silver Star after he was wounded in a tank battle in Vietnam].

Hero status is only a shield for rightwing Bush butt smoochers like Repya, right?

Max Cleland never pretends he’s some non-partisan citizsen soldier who just happened to be upset about some issue and wrote the newspaper about it — like Repya the lying hack does all the time. His partisanship is obvious to everyone.

And, I love how you stupid assclowns accused me of being a member of the KKK and the Gestapo, simply for shining the light oif truth on that lying partisan hack Joe Repya.

If you don’t like seeing or hearing the truth, move to North Korea.

So why don’t you stop elevating your pathetic status to that of oppressed, Jim Crow era African Americans and Jews iduring the Holocaust? You are insulting everyone who has a brain in their head with your pissy whining.