I’m not overreacting! It was a mutiny.
Everyone thinks I’m over reacting or plain wrong. They don’t think I should be worried that Johnson and the DFLers are thrilled that Eibensteiner is gone. When your opposition is thrilled, maybe you made a mistake. Think about it. I don’t think it was Eibensteiner’s fault in 04 anymore. I think, after watching the old guard of the party, that it was their fault.
They seem convinced that a chair is all that is needed to win. The chair will take care of everything. The chair will keep the governor in line. He’ll get Coleman to behave. That’s what the delegates I talked to voted for.
One of the bi-products of the mutiny was telling Pawlenty no. No fees. No gambling. In other words, stop what you’re doing. Don’t you dare try to work it out. Hold the line.
Here’s the problem, we don’t have enough elected Republicans to not compromise, due to our team’s collective failure in 04. We can’t rule with the iron fist requested on Saturday. The stupid fee and casino is an attempt at making things work out at the capital. That’s what this mutiny was about. Disapproval of the Governor and the elected officials.
And as for why I think the old timers in the party told us younglings to shut up. You did. The sense I got was that people want to go back to having good candidates, not elected candidates. Meaning, you’d reather have a pure conservative than someone who can win an election. Or in my words, back to the minority.
Many of the people I talked to on the floor were hell bent on change anyone but Eibensteiner. This wasn’t a Carey thing. If performance mattered, Carey was just as guilty. He was there too. He should have caught some of the mistakes in finances. That was his job. People all mentioned gambling. They were POed at the fees. They want a chair who will call them everyday to find out what to do. Who will control the officials. Who will do everything.
Carey has been around longer than Eibensteiner from what I’ve been told. Great is he going to take us back to when we were “IRs”? Oh boy that sounds so great. Please. This was about platform adherence. That is what the delegates wanted.
And let me say this. If I was ever elected to a position based on my ability to connect with the grassroots, I would darn well go and thank them immediately after winning. I would not sit at the head table and not make eye contact. And I’d be careful not to contradict my campaign claims of poor fundraising performance minutes after over throwing the previous chair.
It is all lies! Carey lied and all you bought it.
I’m sorry that some of the old guard don’t like Eibensteiner or think he didn’t listen to you, or like you, but too bad. Its politics, not a popularity contest. This whole thing is about winning elections. Its about keeping the DFL out of power.
All you Carey appologists are making up excuses.
Listen to the Carey nominating speeches. Listen to Bill Cooper and the crowd response. This was a bloody mutiny, and it just devastated the near future of the party.
This attitude of everything will be fine now is a joke. We’re still a mess, and its worse now. Our younglings have another loss on their hands. We were Eibensteiner supporters. We all worked our butts off for Bush in 04. But to no avail. We’re bitter and feel betrayed. The old guard took over Saturday, and they don’t get it. The past is the past. Time served does not grant certain privileges.
I’ve been told I’m using fear tactics, wrong. The DFL is again going to be encouraged to push for their agenda. They saw weakeness this week end, not strength. There’s blood in the water, and the sharks DFL are circling.





I think you’re being sensationalist to try to maintain hits and readership. Through all of the whining to this point I have yet to hear you address the TRUE concerns of those who wanted RonE out. I listed both on your blog and on mine legitimate reasons for wanting RonE out…and none of them come close to what you keep setting up for your strawman arguement.
Mutiny? Sure, if you want to hold incompetence accountable. After all, the GOP is about accountability and Ron has lost more than he has won. He concedes about 12%-20% of the State House races, gave 0 support to the Senate GOP in 2002 which cost us momentum and the best chance to gain the majority.
You were supporting top-down rulers…perhaps because you thought you could move up in that system, I don’t know and I don’t care. The grass roots people are the ones who turned on RonE…the ones who want to decide if their candidates are good for their area and have them supported without platform litmus tests from the top. We are the ones who believe that the people are the power…not the machine.
Get over it.
And after reviewing everything (including MY PUBLICLY STATED reasons for oppposing RonE) I don’t know where the hell you get off saying I bought Carey’s lies? I did not hear his speech or any of his “platform” by the time I decided that RonE was as bad for the GOP as Howard Dean is for the DNC.
So…What Carey lies did I buy?
Drama queen…that’s what I think you have become over this.
I think it was the worst possible outcome. I think Eric Hoplin is going to be a liability because of the senior scam story covered by Marty Andrade and Tony Garcia and others.
My guess: Carey is just a sock puppet for Bill Cooper.